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PostSubject: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 12:44 am

So,

Basically,


I'm sort of worried about the direction the RP is taking. I can take a lot of fantasy, and we have a lot of fantasy in here, and I immensely enjoy that each writer has a large reign of influence to basically do whatever he or she would like to with their characters and people. the freedom is liberating. Even when you have little to say, there is usually something going on.
That's really awesome.

But the writing has gotten to such a point in this fantasy realm that I am losing interest. Several different events led to this, for example, (Archie becoming Archon was stupid. Idk why I did that. I'm cutting that whole thing out of the book, and developing a different chain of events there)

As long as it makes sense, as long as the story still "sticks" and has continuity, then I'm A-okay. But we can't go back on the ideas and concepts we've already written if we want to make this into a novel (and as I am already doing).

If we want to just write for the fun of writing, well, okay. I can do that. I would like it less personally, to know there isn't going to be some gathering of awesomeness into a book at the end, or any real end at all, no conclusion, no real impacts, whatever...
Less purpose to write, for me at least.

But if we DO want to turn this into a book, the characters have to stay the characters. We can't have them flip-flopping against their own selves, we can't have radical interpersonal changes that redefine everything, and then go back a moment later. We can't have writers with different concept of each character and each interaction trying to create a story together, otherwise it looks, feels and sounds fragmented.

Just for a few examples, I'm not pointing fingers, and I'm certainly not saying that I don't do the same thing:

Archon in general. That was really stupid. I can't believe I did that.
And I re-edited the Kran-Til'Mok, because that was poorly thought out.
And the whole killing a heck of a lot of Fleshers with mind power alone, and dragging a battleship away from a dying sun... Also edited.

Defeating Verax, (er, having him fight, and just transport the soldiers back?) just to have him come back and comically attack again with armies that appear out of no-where following a plan that doesn't seem to have any particular coherency (it might and I don't know about it?) (I feel God-moded against?) (So I god-mode in return? Uncool, from a writing perspective, even if very cool from a personal one. I love huge battle scenes, even if they are difficult to write effectively.)

My differing ideas about the Alteriian-Kazequi bond,
The differences between light and darkness, my understanding vs. everyone else's
What the Lyikos was, what Aurora's children should be/act like/be given

My idea of general restraints of plausibility against someone else's.

I'm writing this because I feel fragmented.
Which is okay, as I said before.

But... if I'm going to continue writing the book, the ending has to make sense with the beginning, and each event has to have either some kind of significance, or other value, and can't just be randomness someone decided to write one day. (Which in itself is not bad. But having characters randomly commit suicide because you don't like them anymore say, would not be a cool move.)

Yeah.
I just have some concerns.

If we could talk about major plot decisions and character actions (especially when they effect more than one character or race) that would be a salve to my wounds, and we don't necessarily have to agree, but it would be nice.

My vision of Dimensional Chess appears to be very unique, and very different of everyone else's. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 12:54 am

Every action I have done in this story has held significance. Please refer to my post on the other thread about the parasites and the kids.

Also. If you ever plan on having it published, I, for one, will be reading it closely. If you change plot events in a way I disagree with, involving my characters, then I will simply not allow you to publish it if you are unwilling to compromise. I hate to act like a bitch, but this isn't just your work, your characters, your writing, or your story. If any person here doesn't like what you do with their character, then we can prevent you from publishing it. If you publish it anyway, I, personally, will take you to court.

Again, don't mean to be a bitch here, but I feel strongly about this. I have compromised on this stuff in several ways with you, but you somehow never seem willing to do the same...

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 1:04 am

Please tell us, is this how they 'should be' or how you think they should? Because you know, things like the Neiede you could definetly define. But things like Verax's plan and how the parasites acted and the children, well, they're not really your jurisdiction. Thats what makes a roleplay awesome, it's not just one person's thoughts ideas and beliefs, it's a conglomerate. So just because you think something should be the way you think it should, you'll probably have to compromise. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 1:25 am

I am willing to compromise. So far I have compromised every time. Actually, I've just given in every time.
Actually, none of you have compromised with me.
Ever.

So I wonder why you say that.


I wrote this because I was concerned, and I wanted dialogue, but you guys are stonewalling me. I wanted to talk about events, not pick sides. I would be on my own there, anyway.

I am aware that your actions have significance. Yes, I know. I understand that.

If you would like to take me to court, then that is your prerogative, I'll see you there. I will publish whatever I would like to if I write it, because it would be my book and not yours, using ideas that are mine (I'm careful like that) and you can fight me to your dying day, bitchy or not, and you will never win. Judging by your reactions, I probably won't be sending it to you at all.

Dialogue, not pick a trench.

I wasn't pointing fingers. And I mentioned that Jacob/Verax only because in the rules it says we can talk about these things if we don't feel that it is right, and I don't feel that it is right, so I would like to talk about it.

I was concerned, not angry. That's why I posted this.

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 1:26 am

(I know they aren't my jurisdiction, unless they directly relate back to me, but as friends and writers I'd still like to talk about it. (Like if you destroy the 6th dimension, that would be within my jurisdiction to say no, right?))

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sat 08 Sep 2012, 1:28 am

Forum for discussion! Not discord!

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PostSubject: Re: If you all could read this, I'd appreciate it =)   Sun 09 Sep 2012, 11:56 am

So I suppose this kinda involves me as well, (Screwing with the early wars, History etc,) I added a few characters I wanted to add to it, but if it messes with the flow i'll gladly get rid of them. Also sorry for disappearing... Klyde wasn't too important but I kinda just ditched him here for a bit and I feel bad about it.

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